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"Numbers" redirects here. For the episode, see Numbers (episode).

The numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 frequently recurred in Lost. Each corresponded with one of the final candidates to replace Jacob as protector of the Island. The numbers also formed the coefficients in an equation that predicted mankind's extinction.

History

Jacob and his brother, the Man in Black, lived on the Island for over two thousand years. During this time, the two engaged in a rivalry over the nature of humanity. Jacob brought people to the Island in order to test them and prove his view right. However, when it became clear that his brother planned to kill him, Jacob had a new reason to summon castaways; to protect the Heart of the Island after his death and to kill the Man in Black. ("Across the Sea")  ("Ab Aeterno")  ("What They Died For")

Before drawing them, Jacob observed these candidates using a lighthouse. The lighthouse's mirrors displayed a different candidate's life with each degree that its dial turned. The numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 corresponded with what turned out to be the final six candidates: ("The Substitute")  ("Lighthouse")  ("What They Died For")

The numbers printed on the 's Hatch.

The numbers printed on the the Swan's Hatch.

4 - Locke
8 - Reyes
15 - Ford
16 - Jarrah
23 - Shephard
42 - Kwon

Though the Numbers, as Damon Lindelof put it, "were around LONG before the early '60s,"[1] mathematician Enzo Valenzetti used them in the 1960s in a mathematical equation. This "Valenzetti Equation" aimed to predict the end of humanity, and the numbers formed its coefficients. The DHARMA Initiative, a scientific venture, conducted research to change one of these coefficients, extending the species' lifespan. (The Lost Experience)

The sequence of numbers formed the serial number of a hatch for a station the Initiative built. When they finished the station, they used the numbers as required input for the station computer protocol. ("Dead Is Dead")  ("Man of Science, Man of Faith")

The Initiative broadcast the numbers from a radio tower on the Island. Thanks to the Island's unusual time flow, Ajira 316's cockpit picked up this signal in 2007, years after it had stopped transmitting, but while the broadcast continued in 1988, it reached the French Bésixdouze expedition, leading them to the island. ("Namaste")  ("Numbers")

 winning lotto ticket.

Hurley's winning lotto ticket.

Two U.S. Naval personnel, Sam Toomey and Leonard Simms also heard the transmission. Toomey used the numbers to win a contest, and a string of bad luck followed. He eventually killed himself. Simms ended up in a mental institute, repeating the sequence continually and saying nothing else. Another patient, one of the candidates the numbers represented, heard the sequence from Simms, and he, like Sam, used them to win the lottery. Bad luck ensued, and the man, Hugo Reyes, concluded that the numbers were cursed. ("Numbers")

A search for the numbers' meaning led Hurley to Australia, and then to the Island. He eventually learned he was a candidate, and ended up serving as Protector of the Island for years. ("Numbers")  ("Lighthouse")  ("The New Man in Charge")

In the alternate reality episode Everybody Loves Hugo, Hurley won at the lottery with different numbers: 10 28 44 53 77 80.

Other occurrences

Girls of a soccer team seen in the foreground of one of 's airport flashbacks are wearing jerseys with the Numbers on them

Girls of a soccer team seen in the foreground of one of Hurley's airport flashbacks are wearing jerseys with the Numbers on them

All at once

The numbers appear on the odometer of Hurley's Camaro.

The numbers appear on the odometer of Hurley's Camaro.

Danielle's papers

4 8 15 16 23 42
4 8 15 16 23 42
4 8 15 16 23 42
4 8 15 16 23 42
4 8 15 16 23 42
4 8 15 16 23 42
4 8 15 16 23 42

Numbers written by Danielle.

Numbers written by Danielle.

8 is 8th number counting in standard reading format; that is, starting at the top, reading a line left-to-right, then moving to the next line beneath. 15 is 15th, 16 is 16th, 23 is 23rd and 42 is 42nd. If the 4 was a 1 or 7 this would work with all the Numbers.

Danielle's numbers map has exactly the same columns and rows (rotated 90°) as a Connect Four board, which was used by Lenny while being questioned by Hurley in the episode 'Numbers'.

Combinations

Single numbers

Please see their respective articles:

Main article: 4
Main article: 8
Main article: 15
Main article: 16
Main article: 23
Main article: 42

The Lost Experience

Production notes

In a Lostpedia interview, David Fury (one of the Season 1 writers and co-executive producers) talked about how the Numbers were developed: "When I started writing the episode (Numbers), I already figured to use numbers that had been heard on the show… 4 (number of years Locke was in wheelchair); 8, 15 (Flight 815), etc." He also confirmed that the number 42 is a homage to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and that the original idea to include a set of Numbers which would be important was J.J. Abrams.

The original interview does not address 23. (Jack and Rose sat in Row 23 ("Pilot, Part 1"). The reward for Kate was $23,000. "Exodus" Hurley to Kate: "Does 23 mean something to you?")

Damon Lindelof did make a comment at Comic Con in 2005 that "We may never know what the Numbers mean." He quickly regretted this, as he got tons of unhappy fan mail demanding to know what he meant exactly. In the 02/13/06 podcast, Carlton Cuse tries to explain what Damon meant.

In a May, 2008 interview with Kristin Dos Santos, Damon Lindelof furthered his statements:[2]

Damon Lindelof

There are some questions that are very engaging and interesting, and then there are other questions that we have no interest whatsoever in answering. We call it the midi-chlorian debate, because at a certain point, explaining something mystical demystifies it. To try and have a character come and say, "Here is what the numbers mean," actually makes every usage of the numbers up to that point less interesting.

You can actually watch Star Wars now, and when Obi-Wan talks about the Force to Luke for the first time, it loses its luster because the Force has been explained as, sort of, little biological agents that are in your blood stream. So you go, "Oh, I liked Obi-Wan's version a lot better." Which in the case of our show is, "The numbers are bad luck, they keep popping up in Hurley's life, they appear on the island." ... But if you're watching the show for a detailed explanation of what the numbers mean—and I'm not saying you won't see more of them—then you will be disappointed by the end of season six.

In a 2009 interview with E!, Damon again commented on the Numbers: [1]

Damon Lindelof

Here's the story with numbers. The Hanso Foundation that started the DHARMA Initiative hired this guy Valenzetti to basically work on this equation to determine what was the probability of the world ending in the wake of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Valenzetti basically deduced that it was 100 percent within the next 27 years, so the Hanso Foundation started the Dharma Initiative in an effort to try to change the variables in the equation so that mankind wouldn't wipe it itself out.

The numbers appear at the very beginning...

The numbers appear at the very beginning...

..

... and a couple of frames later

Apophenia in arithmetic

Main article: Apophenia

If you start adding and subtracting the Numbers you can make up almost any theory that you want. For example;

  • LOST has a total of 121 episodes. 1 + 2 + 1 = 4, a number.

In fact any positive natural number can be constructed as follows: n = (16 - 15) x n. Which simply requires n additions and as many subtractions. Since zero can also be created by subtracting any of the numbers from itself, all the natural numbers can be created. Since there exists a bijection between the rational and the natural numbers, this means that any rational number can be constructed using only the numbers 15 and 16 in an integer relation.

This is why using arithmetic in deciding if a number counts as a reference is a somewhat pointless exercise, with two notable exceptions;

Here, the arithmetic is straightforward, and therefore can be construed as intentional, and beyond coincidence. This follows a general rule laid out by Occam's razor of avoiding needless complexity in order to force connections which do not really exist.

Occurrences outside of the show

At the time the Numbers were first prominently featured in the episode Numbers, The On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences did not have any integer sequences which included the Numbers.[3] Two days after the episode aired, the numbers (along with 108) were added to the encyclopedia as "The Lost Numbers".[4] Because of this it is highly unlikely that the Numbers have any real-world mathematical or scientific significance. Since then, however, two more sequences have been added which include the Numbers, A122115 and A130826

At least some of the Numbers are well known as special numbers before the show:

Outside media references

A reference to some of the Numbers is often made in other shows, movies, or pop culture that post-dated Lost, very frequently a tribute to the show:

Natural occurrences

Miscellaneous real world occurrences

Mega Millions Left, and Hurleys ticket right.

Mega Millions Left, and Hurleys ticket right.

Unanswered questions

Unanswered questions
  1. Do not answer the questions here.
  2. Keep the questions open-ended and neutral: do not suggest an answer.
For fan theories about these unanswered questions, see: The Numbers/Theories

See also

External links

References